tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post6696756933780181012..comments2023-10-29T19:03:11.547-04:00Comments on A Pilgrim's Progress: Questions on StewardshipErichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07306854704766653209noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-15556920279537477802011-01-07T14:28:16.411-05:002011-01-07T14:28:16.411-05:00Eric H.,
I guess it goes to show that the farther...Eric H.,<br /><br />I guess it goes to show that the farther we move away from the biblical model the more trouble we get into.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306854704766653209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-37568532296516322982011-01-07T12:37:39.734-05:002011-01-07T12:37:39.734-05:00Their current newsletter is just obscene - what a ...Their <a href="http://www.calvaryinsavannah.org/wp-content/uploads/Current%20Newsletter.pdf" rel="nofollow">current newsletter</a> is just obscene - what a wicked twisting of the Scripture. <br /><br />This is what I am used to seeing in "stewardship" teaching. Building a worldly, material kingdom and bullying the body into funding it so fame will increase and we can be like Church X. If we build it, they will come (and if they don't, we'll enjoy our nice stuff anyway). The only part missing is the <a href="http://www.lifeway.com/menu/?id=201266" rel="nofollow">hired gun from SBC headquarters</a> to come do a dinner and hard-sell pledge drive (been there, done that) to convince the body of what God is <i>really</i> leading them to do.<br /><br />1 Timothy 6:6-10 or Proverbs 22:7 are never part of such "stewardship" training.<br /><br />Neither is figuring out who really "cast a vision" for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. <br /><br />Starting, operating, enlarging or crashing a non-profit corporation should not be equated with the functioning body of Christ - because it is not cash that feeds and supplies every joint.<br /><br />Eric HEric Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474521455238285586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-74012574081661085322011-01-05T16:17:35.844-05:002011-01-05T16:17:35.844-05:00John,
You are right. There really is a fundament...John,<br /><br />You are right. There really is a fundamental misunderstanding of what stewardship even is.<br /><br />The ones I feel bad for are those Christians who will give sacrificially, thinking they are doing some good when in fact they are just supporting the institution.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306854704766653209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-70321659980036002982011-01-05T16:16:03.609-05:002011-01-05T16:16:03.609-05:00Eric,
Calvary is in a mess. No doubt about that....Eric,<br /><br />Calvary is in a mess. No doubt about that. I'd be fascinated to look at how they spend the money that comes in through this stewardship emphasis.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306854704766653209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-32277806304705031752011-01-05T15:56:30.409-05:002011-01-05T15:56:30.409-05:00Eric,
I have never preached on stewardship,as you...Eric,<br /><br />I have never preached on stewardship,as you refer to it, but seen amazing giving by people who had little material wealth, but great spiritual wealth.<br /><br />Stewardship, as I understand it, has little to do with money and more to do with a man's/woman's relationship with the Father as the Owner of ALL we are, and have.Aussie Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16199918171163666399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-48620765745859427752011-01-05T15:32:07.568-05:002011-01-05T15:32:07.568-05:00...say it isn't so...
Perhaps they are consid...<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=connell+calvary+savannah&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">...say it isn't so...</a><br /><br />Perhaps they are considering Phase 1 of that master-planned <a href="http://www.calvaryinsavannah.org/?page_id=1938" rel="nofollow">lakeside development</a> with tennis courts, clubhouse and swimming pool (sorry, as an engineer in the construction industry, this is a sore spot for me). <br /><br />Or, since there is an active pulpit committee, it is probably also important to demonstrate "financial stability" for that man that is "called to serve" there next, though it will be tough to get around Chapter 11 discussions, won't it? <br /><br />They have quite a battleship already moving. It is a real challenge to change the "business" of things. Even if they stopped today, debts must be paid, properties sold, etc. The reaping will still take place for what was sown. I do not envy their position.<br /><br /> <br />Eric HEric Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474521455238285586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-85894668205252244362011-01-05T14:41:05.238-05:002011-01-05T14:41:05.238-05:00Arthur,
You are right on. Today when a local chu...Arthur,<br /><br />You are right on. Today when a local church emphasizes "stewardship" it is almost always because it needs to pay its own bills. That is an utterly foreign concept in the NT.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306854704766653209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4987271399653590272.post-57762166357955140552011-01-05T14:19:56.325-05:002011-01-05T14:19:56.325-05:00I looked at this a while back and it certainly see...I looked at this a while back and it certainly seems to me that in every example of giving in the New Testament church, the money was raised to provide for the material needs of others and frankly never to pay a mortgage, salary or buy VBS materials.Arthur Sidohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.com