I've had a strange, ironic relationship with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) over the past fifteen years.
When we first moved to Georgia from New York state in 1996, we desired to find a church home that proclaimed the gospel. We ended up attending a Southern Baptist Church for the first time. I appreciate the fact that that particular local body of believers never once wavered on the truth of the bible or the absolute need of all people for the gospel.
After six years of SBC life in two different SBC churches, we felt led to seminary. I had no idea where to attend; my pastor at the time suggested that I look at a few different SBC seminaries. After a few months of decision making and resulting transition, we ended up at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS).
During my four years at SEBTS I was exposed to excellent bible teaching. I greatly appreciate both the instruction and the example that I was given from many godly professors. Without exception, they all loved the Lord Jesus, believed in the truth of the truth of the gospel, and looked to the bible as their source of direction and truth.
A good seminary education is not cheap. However, I was blessed to graduate debt free. Why? For one thing, one of the SBC churches we had attended in Georgia provided us with $300 per month for four years. Second, the SBC's Cooperative Program covered about 50% of my tuition. Other seminary scholarships (plus some help from UPS) made for a basically free M.Div. I'm very thankful for this.
While at SEBTS, regardless of academic subject, we were taught to first search the scriptures for truth. The bible was repeatedly described as inerrant, infallible, inspired, and authoritative. It was the final arbiter of what was true. No questions asked.
After graduation, the SBC's International Mission Board sent us overseas to serve. What a challenging and life changing experience it was! In God's sovereign providence, it was to be short-lived. After four months in Asia, we had to return home quickly when our son Bobby was diagnosed with Lymphoma. In the year after his diagnosis, in which the Lord healed him, the IMB paid for our living expenses. Also, an SBC church here in the Savannah area allowed us to reside in its mission-house basically for free. Throughout this time many Southern Baptists prayed for us.
As you know by now, after Bobby was healed, I began to look for employment. I ended up serving as pastor of an SBC church here in Savannah for about 2.5 years. The people of Chevis Oaks Baptist Church were kind and supportive to us during our time there.
I reviewed all of the above information so that I could point to something kind of ironic. We have received much financial and emotional support through the years from Southern Baptists. We have always been told that the bible is truth. We've been encouraged to study the scriptures to see what they say. Well, after searching the scriptures for quite a while about what God says about His church, I came to some unsettling conclusions. I did not see in the bible many of the aspects of church that I saw in SBC life. On the flip side, I saw in the bible certain things about the church that are usually absent from SBC church life. I've written about these things many times before. On top of all this, I certainly didn't see any denominations in the bible. I only read commands for the church to be united in Christ.
The irony is that the SBC's influence upon me to search for scriptural truth ultimately led me to leave the SBC itself.
I will always be grateful to the SBC for its support through the past fifteen years. I owe a debt that I can never repay. I hope to continue to have great relationships with Southern Baptists and to work with Southern Baptists for the spread of the gospel.
However, I can no longer consider myself to be a Southern Baptist because, ironically, of what I read about unity in scripture.
When we first moved to Georgia from New York state in 1996, we desired to find a church home that proclaimed the gospel. We ended up attending a Southern Baptist Church for the first time. I appreciate the fact that that particular local body of believers never once wavered on the truth of the bible or the absolute need of all people for the gospel.
After six years of SBC life in two different SBC churches, we felt led to seminary. I had no idea where to attend; my pastor at the time suggested that I look at a few different SBC seminaries. After a few months of decision making and resulting transition, we ended up at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS).
During my four years at SEBTS I was exposed to excellent bible teaching. I greatly appreciate both the instruction and the example that I was given from many godly professors. Without exception, they all loved the Lord Jesus, believed in the truth of the truth of the gospel, and looked to the bible as their source of direction and truth.
A good seminary education is not cheap. However, I was blessed to graduate debt free. Why? For one thing, one of the SBC churches we had attended in Georgia provided us with $300 per month for four years. Second, the SBC's Cooperative Program covered about 50% of my tuition. Other seminary scholarships (plus some help from UPS) made for a basically free M.Div. I'm very thankful for this.
While at SEBTS, regardless of academic subject, we were taught to first search the scriptures for truth. The bible was repeatedly described as inerrant, infallible, inspired, and authoritative. It was the final arbiter of what was true. No questions asked.
After graduation, the SBC's International Mission Board sent us overseas to serve. What a challenging and life changing experience it was! In God's sovereign providence, it was to be short-lived. After four months in Asia, we had to return home quickly when our son Bobby was diagnosed with Lymphoma. In the year after his diagnosis, in which the Lord healed him, the IMB paid for our living expenses. Also, an SBC church here in the Savannah area allowed us to reside in its mission-house basically for free. Throughout this time many Southern Baptists prayed for us.
As you know by now, after Bobby was healed, I began to look for employment. I ended up serving as pastor of an SBC church here in Savannah for about 2.5 years. The people of Chevis Oaks Baptist Church were kind and supportive to us during our time there.
I reviewed all of the above information so that I could point to something kind of ironic. We have received much financial and emotional support through the years from Southern Baptists. We have always been told that the bible is truth. We've been encouraged to study the scriptures to see what they say. Well, after searching the scriptures for quite a while about what God says about His church, I came to some unsettling conclusions. I did not see in the bible many of the aspects of church that I saw in SBC life. On the flip side, I saw in the bible certain things about the church that are usually absent from SBC church life. I've written about these things many times before. On top of all this, I certainly didn't see any denominations in the bible. I only read commands for the church to be united in Christ.
The irony is that the SBC's influence upon me to search for scriptural truth ultimately led me to leave the SBC itself.
I will always be grateful to the SBC for its support through the past fifteen years. I owe a debt that I can never repay. I hope to continue to have great relationships with Southern Baptists and to work with Southern Baptists for the spread of the gospel.
However, I can no longer consider myself to be a Southern Baptist because, ironically, of what I read about unity in scripture.
22 comments:
Eric
I share a bit of the same irony. Due to the steady exhortations to search the scriptures for myself and the driving force of the Bible's inerrancy our family left an SBC church for a reformed baptist church. There we were driven with repeated appeals of sola scriptura to form all of our lives. As time progressed I realized that what they termed regulative worship was regulated by trditions that informed the scripture rather than scripture that had informed tradition.
Bobby,
Our situations sure have a lot of overlap. How interesting it is that we simply took studying the scriptures to the logical endpoint concerning the church and we came to the same conclusions.
Eric & Bobby,
I can toss my hat into the ring, too. I've been in Protestant (Reformed or semi-reformed) circles for my entire 17 years as a Christian. Sola Scriptura all the way. Every church and/or teacher has exhorted its people to check out what I/we say against the Scriptures. I have done so dilligently. And...
I have come to some different, even radically different, conclusions. Conclusions that either don't allow me to continue with them or allow them to continue with me. Some praise Martin Luther for his public airing of his beliefs about the Catholic church, yet condemn the Martin Luthers within their own church who do the same thing. Double standard.
One might think they would be proud (in the human sense) of a disciple that actually turned out following what they taught. But when you come to that endpoint, there's no joy in Mudville. Why is that?
I would echo what Bobby sad. Ironic indeed that the very principle of sola scriptura is what led me to a radical rethinking of the church.
Eric,
Sounds like that life changing voice has neither an American nor Australian accent.
Eric,
Thanks for sharing. I recently wrote an article titled "Unity, we've gotta do this together." I mention denominations, but in a different light. Rather than being unbiblical, I view them as extra-biblical. I believe denominations result when they carry some kind of illumination that God gives people too far, and segregate because of them.
I believe that efforts to unite our denominations are a work of the flesh, and something God is not part of. I liken the situation to people building a tabernacle for Moses, and another one for Elijah. The Father says "This is my Son, hear him!"
The kind of unity the Father is calling for is probably very different than the kind of unity people are seeking. Jesus Christ is who the Father wants us to unite around, nothing else, not even our doctrines, or revelations, or even local church-specific instruction.
God bless, Richie
http://rcsthe.blogspot.com
Steve,
The whole process is a very interesting one. A logical end point of sola scriptura is that we would hold up everything to the bible. That's going to cause problems for the traditional church. Some will be happy about this but, as we know, many others will not. When you begin to ask those hard questions, you will end up on the outside looking in. But I'm certainly not saying anything you don't already know.
Arthur,
I think we are destined to be aliens to the prominent church culture in this country. Some folks will listen along the way, but most won't. We just have to be willing to graciously live the truth whether others like it or not.
John,
Scripture sure speaks loudly in all languages. I'm so thankful to the Lord for opening my eyes to what His church should be. I pray that He continues to open my eyes to other blind spots in my life. May He do the same for us all!
Richie,
Denominations are difficult things because they seem to both do some good and some harm. For example, the Southern Baptist Convention does some good in that it has many ministires that churches partner together to bring about. In that sense, the cooperation is a good thing.
The harmful aspect is the exclusion of brothers and sisters in Christ who don't hold to the same doctrine in secondary areas (such as baptism).
In the end, I have to return to the biblical model to inform my decision making on this.
Thanks for sharing.
Eric,
As you know (but others may not) you and I left that same small town SBC church to pursue theological education. I just happened to go a little further north (Southern Seminary) and probably significantly more reformed in thinking than the SEBTS. I too am thankful and have no regrets; the scholarship of my professors was indeed impeccable. I know the Lord used the experience (not just class study) to grow me in Christ.
Eventually the Lord gave us opportunity to place our children in a private Christian school which was started as a ministry of the Churches of Christ over 84 years ago, located just miles from the seminary. The seminary and this small private school actually had a very close relationship, with several seminary graduates teaching there, and many professors’ children attending the school. The Church of Christ in Kentucky/Indiana area often outnumbers SBC churches (unlike where we were located in South Georgia). Truthfully this was really my real first in-depth exposure to a denomination other than SBC (reflecting on that now is kind of sad).
Although I attended and served (youth ministry) at a small SBC during my schooling, after graduating I was open to whatever the Lord was planning for us. Over the years I had developed many friendships with parents and minsters at the children’s school. After graduation I accepted and interview opportunity with a Church of Christ which was once pastored by one of the school administrators who had become a mentor/friend to me.
So I began the interview process with this small Church of Christ just north of the seminary in Southern Indiana which lasted several months. The elders and myself discussed our biblical beliefs and convictions at great length. One of the interesting things we all learned in the process ( I am their first SBC graduate – 125 yr old church), was that we were all closer in our theology than either us had thought we would be. What we in fact agreed on, far outweighed any traditions or non-essential positions we held minors differences about.
I spent numerous hours studying the doctrinal positions and history of the Church of Christ movement prior to accepting the interview opportunity and eventually a call to the full time preaching/teaching ministry with this church. The Church of Christ grew out a movement called "the restoration", not the reformation (1500's), but restoration (late 1800's). I won't attempt to discuss the entire movement in this post, but the general idea of the founders was to restore the church back as close to the early New Testament church as possible.
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I’ll be the first to say I don't believe they got everything right in the process, and even though one of the chief priorities was to reject denominations, in many ways they themselves became the denomination that rejected denominations. At the same time certain positions held and “restored” by them were very attractive to me.
I found more agreement with their teaching on many doctrines such as; plurality of eldership, church membership, freewill grace giving, weekly observance of the communion meal, baptism as the inseparable and first order act of obedience signifying identification with and entrance into the faith (not salvific).
Interestingly enough one of the positions I had a lot of reservations about, I have come to respect, as I began to see the benefits of it. That is the acappella form of singing. This is participatory congregational singing without the aid of mechanical instruments or the use of choirs. I did not see the use of instruments or having a choir so much as a biblical issue, yet I quickly realized that the acappella form of worship in song promoted participation by the whole congregation. I also realized that it avoided the entertainment model (they perform – we listen) so abused in today’s church gatherings. Basically I saw that it took the focus off the performer (choir or instrumentalist) and placed it back on God, who should be the object our songs and worship.
So here is why I shared all this. I find a lot of irony in my journey also. What I probably learned more than anything, is that none of us have it all figured out. I do think it is important to do our best to faithfully hold to biblical teachings and convictions. But I also think it is critical that we avoid defining our faith and worship by the teachings of a particular denominational structure.
I saved one the most significant restoration principals in order to close with a question for you. The battle cry for the birth of the restoration movement was; “Where the Scriptures speak, we speak; where the Scriptures are silent, we are silent”. With that declaration, the Churches of Christ rejected man made denominational creeds. They therefore hold that there is no creed or doctrines other than what the Bible teaches. Another statement they use is “no creed but Christ”. Therefore they would not subscribe to something commonly called a “confession of faith”.
I was wondering since the BF&M was such an integral part of our early education and beliefs, what now are your convictions concerning “confessions of faith” or “creedal” statements? I have not seen you post or blog on this and was interested in your convictions on this.
In Christ,
Brother Scott ><>
sorry my comment may be longer than your post :)
Toyin,
Thanks for reading and commenting!
Scott,
Thanks for sharing your journey with me. I had been wondering about your path to your current ministry.
How interesting it is that we both came out of the same SBC church and we were both challenged by SBC seminaries to search the scriptures. We both did so, and look where we ended up! I'm not sure the SBC wants this to happen with too many of its graduates.
We both did, however, search the bible and let that direct us. As you said, nobody has it all figured out. However, by the grace of God, we were at least able and willing to see outside the SBC box. As for your church, it sounds like you are in a very good spot. I like a lot of what you have said about it.
As for creeds and confessions, I have mixed emotions about them. However, I tend to reject them. Here's my reasoning (which may be very similar to yours): It's important for churches to know what they believe. In fact, churches need to know what they believe about things. Far too many liberal churches today have no idea.
The problem often comes when agreed upon beliefs are then put down on paper in some official form. This new creed or confession almost immediately begins to act as a sort of filter. People who believe it can enter the church, but those who do not believe it are rejected. Creeds and confessions, then, almost always lead to division.
They also take on a source of authority with which I'm uncomfortable. For example, I've attended two Ligionier Conferences in Orlando. I tire of hearing PCA folks say, "The Westminster Confession says..." It's fine to look back at a confession, but if people start studying it to inform their decision making, then we have a problem. They need to just look in the bible.
So overall I reject creeds and confessions. They are simply accompanied by too many problems.
I prefer the confession "Jesus is Lord!" That seemed to work in the bible, so I'll go with it as well.
I was out looking at Christian blogs and found yours. I had to smile. I accepted Christ in a Southern Baptist Church in Cedar City, Utah. My Church was on fire for the Lord. If you went to a Baptist Church there, you had to be serious. I went to a Southern Baptist college and began learning the Bible in depth- became a Summer Missionary. But when my family moved to Washington state the Church was not what I was used to, the people seemed to attend because they felt they had to. So I went to other denominations. I graduated from a Methodist university- Seattle Pacific University, got married in a Presbyterian Church, went to a Christian & Missionary Alliance Church (excellent overseas evangelism). What I discovered is they all had some strengths. The Southern Baptists excel in local evangelism. I have often wondered if God hasn't allowed the denominations to fulfill the need for a body of believers- different parts with different specialties. I currently attend a non-denominational Church- Calvary Chapel. It has a nice mix of worship, teaching, evangelism and accountability. Looking forward to the day when we will be one Church in Christ. Here is my blog if you'd like to see it. Just thoughts from my daily quiet times, nothing big. Hope Faith & Life.
Karen,
It sounds like you've had a sort of excellent adventure as I have. I hope you have found peace and contentment where you are now serving. I've heard good things about Calvary Chapel.
The key in all this denominational stuff is, I believe, to keep our eyes fixed on Christ. The more we strive to be like Him, the more we will desire unity with our brothers and sisters in Christ.
What are your thoughts about Communion?
Donna,
Thank you for commenting on my blog. I want to answer your question, but I want to be sure to answer what you are getting at. Could you be a little more specific in what you are asking? What about communion do you want to know? Thanks!
Have you changed your opinion on communion since you left the SBA.
Donna,
My beliefs about the meaning of the Lord´s Supper remain the same. Ultimately, I believe it is a memorial meal where we celebrate the death of Christ and what that accomplished. This is how Paul describes it in I Corinthians 11.
As for how we now celebrate the Lord´s Supper, that has changed quite a bit. Since the early church celebrated it as a full meal, we now do this too. Each family brings a few different dishes and we eat together. At some point in the meal we have the bread and juice. It´s been wonderful.
I wrote a post about this back on January 13th entitled, ¨House Church, The Lord´s Supper Feast.¨ I encourage you to read it.
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